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		<title>Aint no pedia like Wikipedia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prashanth Nuggehalli Srinivas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Bureaucracy was expected</blockquote>
Morozov brings up the valid argument that bureaucracy is choking the cyclopaedia. No large institution was ever run as in a fly-by-wire manner in which small NGOs or garage-based companies are run. Bureaucracy is an expected consequence of such a mass collaboration....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gracula.svg"><img alt="" src="http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/thumb.php?f=Gracula.svg&#038;width=1000px" title="Geographical distribution of various forms of the a myna" class="alignnone" width="500" height="277" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Hill_Myna">Gracula religiosa</a> is the latin name of the Hill Myna, a beautiful bird seen along the Western Ghats and associated South Indian hills. It is one of the endemic birds here and has recently been elevated to a full species, and rechristened Southern Hill Myna. Not getting into the boring details of why this was done, and how this is relevant to anybody, the above image introduces you to the similar looking forms of this bird, found across several areas and islands in South and Southeast Asia. Now, whether these other forms are actually the brothers of the myna we see in places in the Western Ghats or cousins, once, twice or thrice removed is the boring taxonomic question. <a href="http://jboyd.net/Taxo/taxo_refs.html">Pages and pages</a> of literature are available on the above and <a href="http://jboyd.net/Taxo/TIF%20World%20List%20v3.xls">lists are often updated</a>. Particularly, bird families such as warblers are prone to causing confusion and consternation, both in the field <a href="http://jboyd.net/Taxo/sam3.html">as well as in literature</a>!</p>
<p>Now, this beautiful illustration that is used in a small corner of the article on the hill myna is created by a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shyamal">volunteer editor and a friend</a> for Wikipedia, the free encyclopaedia&#8230;..the one that &#8216;anybody can edit&#8217;. Well, almost&#8230;.and that is exactly the problem for <a href="http://www.evgenymorozov.com/">Evgeny Morozov</a>. In an <a href="http://bostonreview.net/BR34.6/morozov.php">article for the Boston Review</a>, he presents his viewpoint on the way wikipedia is being run (or not run). </p>
<p>Illustrations like the one that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shyamal">Shyamal</a> has created are created voluntarily and for illustrating wikipedia articles. However, the fact that people like Shyamal have put up these illustrations in Wikimedia commons under a license that permits anybody to use it, especially for non-commercial and educational purposes evokes intrigue and incomprehensibility for Morozov. He asks “Why do Wikipedians spend countless hours improving the site, often doing mundane, repetitive tasks they would never do for money?” It is a very well articulated question? And it would be too romantic of me to profess, greater common good or information equity as answers. While such lofty ideas do drive many contributions, many others are there for much more mundane reasons – geekiness, exercising authority and many others for sheer fun. </p>
<p>Wikimedia commons is an immense repository of over 5,000,000 <div class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 257px"><a href="http://blog.wikimedia.org/2009/09/02/wikimedia-commons-breaks-the-5000000-file-mark/"><img alt="Scan of the front page of an 1838 Danish newspaper" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Kj%C3%B8benhavnsposten_28_nov_1838_side_1.jpg" title="The 5 millionth file on commons" width="247" height="337" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Scan of the front page of an 1838 Danish newspaper</p></div>images and media contributed by the same ragtag lot that is alluded to in the article by Morozov. These are today being used widely in schools, colleges, research presentations and to illustrate scientific work as well! The site encourages reuse, if necessary with modification <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia">in as many words</a>! For me, this is an expression of information equity. An effort at bringing information of all kinds on a platform where it is easily usable by anybody, with no tags attached. Just that, if achieved, I would view any number of articles that happen on Wikipedia as just a fringe benefit. And what I see is much more than fringe, and a lot more than benefit. </p>
<p>Morozov&#8217;s rant on Wikipedia spurred a few thoughts of mine that are neglected in his piece. </p>
<blockquote><p>Bureaucracy was expected</p></blockquote>
<p>Morozov brings up the valid argument that bureaucracy is choking the cyclopaedia. No large institution was ever run as in a fly-by-wire manner in which small NGOs or garage-based companies are run. Bureaucracy is an expected consequence of such a mass collaboration. If you compare wikipedia to countries, it started off as a kingdom (very briefly in the beginning), progressed to run like a small NGO, then a garage-based company, but now the numbers are just too much! Yes, it does need a bureaucracy to sustain it. In the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Mintzberg#Theory_on_Organizational_Forms">Mintzberg prism</a>, this would be a transition of Wikipedia as an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhocracy">adhocracy</a> initially into a mechanistic bureaucracy. Yes, it is unfortunate.</p>
<blockquote><p>Growth of Wikipedia is plateauing</p></blockquote>
<p>After the few million articles that got created, what did anybody expect? The development that is going to happen over the next few years is going to be much more on quality. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiGnome">Wikignomes</a> go about improving citations, checking spellings, inserting quotations and italicising Latin names of biota. In isolation, all of these are &#8216;those mundane edits&#8217; that Morozov talks about, but in summation, they add up to much more. </p>
<blockquote><p>The demography of wikipedia</p></blockquote>
<p>“Wikipedians are 80 percent male, more than 65 percent single, more than 85 percent without children, and around 70 percent of them are under the age of 30.” I am male, single, without a child and around 30! I am a fairly representative sample of a Wikipedian editor. Now, Morozov intends to portray this as a consequence of Wikipedia. I believe this to be the cause. </p>
<blockquote><p>In July 2003 Lih joined the then-two-year-old encyclopedia, and within a few months became one of its administrators. (That a novice could move up so quickly illustrates how badly Wikipedia needed talent in its early days.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Being an administrator is not an award for editing or a promotion of sorts. Morozov confuses the designation of admin on wikipedia to be that of a higher caste of editors, while in fact, many prolific content contributors are not admins. They don&#8217;t choose to be either. I will not get into this, but the wikipedia I see and the one he sees are quite different. </p>
<blockquote><p>Experts are forced to engage in pointless debates with Wikipedia’s bureaucratic guardians, many of whom are persuaded only by hyper links, not cogent arguments.</p></blockquote>
<p>Scientific collaboration and networking among professionals has increased many times through Wikipedia. Biologists across the world interact with others for identification of photographs. They share data, viewpoints and arguments. There are curators of leading museums among the editorial team at Wikipedia. These get missed out in the bad biographical articles that get picked up by the media. It is nice and easy to write a polemical piece by choosing the skeletons from Wikipedia&#8217;s cupboard (which is open for all to see, by the way), but not an easy task to appreciate the meticulousness with which several professionals and amatuers collaborate in this internally chaotic, but wonderful exercise&#8230;.a bit like&#8230;ahem&#8230;life itself. In an era, where divorces between erstwhile lovers is so high, how could anybody expect seamless co-existance of a few thousand editors from across the globe writing on issues from Palestine conflict to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greater_Short-nosed_Fruit_Bat&#038;action=historysubmit&#038;diff=322497737&#038;oldid=322496085">fellatio in fruit bats</a>!</p>
<p>That Wikipedia is chaotic, bureaucratic, plateauing in growth and biting newcomers is all quite well known and <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17554-after-the-boom-is-wikipedia-heading-for-bust.html">has been said before</a>. Morozov deserves credit for putting these things together in one essay. But, seeing the end of Wikipedia round the corner is more than just speculation. </p>
<p>I have spent a<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Prashanthns"> few thousand edits and a few hours</a> on Wikipedia. I continue to, in fact. Recently, I was impressed <a href="http://www.wec.ufl.edu/faculty/brunae/Publications/Callis_etal_2009_TREE.pdf">by an article in a scientific journal </a>calling for wikipedia contributions from scientists, more as a professional responsibility rather than some late evening altruism. But like most others (I presume), my work on Wikipedia has been immensely satisfying for me. A side-effect of this was that several article got written or improved. And that is the strength of Wikipedia. It never had the great grand vision that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Wales">our chieftain</a> evangelises around the globe. The stuff he talks about happens is a side-effect, which is not at all bad for me or for Wikipedia. It is only people who have charted some kind of a yardstick for Wikipedia that keep getting disappointed. </p>
<p>Anyways, the point I am trying to make is that Wikipedia is the best we have. The mundane editing that happens is an inescapable consequence of keeping the encyclopaedia open. The governance is transparent and open to criticism. It is much too early to pass a judgement on online content collaborations such as the one that Wikipedia is leading. The delicate balance between conserving professionalism and keeping alive collaboration by amateurs is being managed brilliantly by Wikipedia. <a href="http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Citizendium">Other spin-offs</a> which tweaked the balance some slightly, and others more towards the professional, are slowly fading away. We could do a China, and legislate articles, or blow up internally like a banana republic&#8230;.but, well, at wikipedia, we choose democracy. Democracy comes at a high price, and we pay that for Wikipedia. It is slower to get that damned card from the &#8217;sarkari&#8217; office, but hey, at least, I do not have to get orders about my future from a colonel! </p>
<p>In as much as Morozov points out these things like the extreme bureaucratisation, &#8216;biting of newcomers&#8217; and the flawed model in adminship and regulation of biographical articles, he is absolutely right. There are umpteen discussions ongoing in the back alleys of Wikipedia on all these. Change will come slowly, and that is a flaw. But there is no better way to it. </p>
<p>And, still that ultimate question is not answered which I have put up on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Prashanthns">my user page</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Youre_dreaming_eh%3F/Userboxes/BetterThanWiki%3F">“This user believes that anyone who thinks Wikipedia is an unreliable source should continue their quest to find a better website.”</a></p>
<p>Image sources: Wikimedia Commons/Shyamal</p>
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		<title>Delhibirding at Okhla</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Prashanth Nuggehalli Srinivas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A particularly hot Sunday morning, the stench of the Yamuna and the recent disquiet from yesterday's tragic blasts did not deter the Sunday outing of Delhibird to Okhla Bird Sanctuary, geographically in Uttar Pradesh, but only about half hour drive from the national capital.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in Delhi over the weekend on work and I was able to catch up on some Sunday birding with <a href="http://delhibird.net/" target="_blank"><span class="nfakPe">Delhibird</span></a> members. Just thought of sharing my experience with them, this being my first birding outing in Delhi. Due thanks to <a href="http://sarusscape.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Gopi Sundar</a>, Anshu, KB Singh and a diverse group of members from <span class="nfakPe">Delhibird</span> well represented in age, gender and profession!</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agra_Canal"><img class="alignleft" title="Okla Barrage - Late ninteenth centure from the Crofton Collection" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Agra_canal_headworks1871a.jpg" alt="" width="228" height="158" /></a>A particularly hot Sunday morning, the stench of the Yamuna and the recent disquiet from yesterday&#8217;s tragic blasts did not deter the Sunday outing of <span class="nfakPe">Delhibird</span> to Okhla Bird Sanctuary, geographically in Uttar Pradesh, but only about half hour drive from the national capital.</p>
<p>A chance meeting with Gopi Sundar who studies Sarus Cranes and a co-incidental phone call  from Anshu of Delhibirds regarding the outing made it possible for me to join the group to Okhla. We left Delhi at 5.40 AM and reached Okhla at 6 AM. The twitching of the Lesser Whitethroat and the ammoniacal odours of the Yamuna welcomed us (For those who think I am overstenching the Yamuna, see quote of the day below). We parked within Okhla and walked down the trail with agricultural fields on one side and dry marsh land with tall grass on the other with the &#8216;pie&#8217; of male bushchats every few metres apart. A lone Common Babbler on the trail ahead excited me quite a bit, we southerners not having this &#8216;common&#8217; cousin of our babblers.<br />
We reached the end of the trail overlooks the Yamuna waters with tall grass, a few settlements and stray cattle separating us from the water. Somebody pointed out a large bird perched at a distance and the day started. Even as the scope was being set up, several binocs went up and a tentative diagnosis of a hepatic female cuckoo was announced. The barring on the upper tail, its<br />
large size and the very fine nature of the barring on the underparts was bringing Eurasian Cuckoo in my mind. The scope brought some clarity &#8211; the yellowish bill and the plumage indicated that it was a juvenile. The throat had relatively lesser streaking and the underparts were also quite dark with the fine barring. With a lingering doubt in everyone&#8217;s mind, we settled for juv. Greybellied Cuckoo. A few record shots from the photgrapher friends will settle the id soon perhaps.</p>
<p>A courageous group of delhibirders turned waders and waded through some water, vegetation and whatnot to reach the water. They were rewarded with Blacktailed Godwits, Ruffs and several other waterbirds. Just then, we all had seen a female Marsh Harrier and even as I was about to mention Migrantwatch, KB Singh informed me that he would be logging it into MW<br />
today! The other group which stayed put were witness to an Rufousbacked Shrikes, an oriole in flight, red munias and black drongos. On the other bank, meanwhile were over a hundred terns, mostly whiskered with some river terns fishing. As we returned, Gopi scoped a few Spotted Owlets roosting in a Banyan tree nearby. A Greater Spotted Eagle and a Pariah kite circling<br />
together as we walked back was another highlight of the morning.</p>
<p>It was a great opportunity to meet some birders from Delhi. It&#8217;s amazing how many of them have heard so much about BR Hills. The recent photographs from BR Hills had made it even more of a top destination for many of them. Between the harriers and the munias, the conversation moved from Migrantwatch to the top-ten photographers announced by Kolkatabirds and slowly strayed away to idlis and dosas, and at some point, we all dispersed<br />
to Sagar restaurant in Noida, where I gulped down the most expensive idlis of my life. As all breakfast convos go, this one too was unmatched in its width of topics &#8211; conservation policy, judiciary, ethics, choice of &#8217;spirits&#8217; and what not!</p>
<p>A morning well spent with <span class="nfakPe">delhibird</span> members and I look forward to birding again with them whenever I visit Delhi.</p>
<p>Quote of the day (Heard over breakfast :)</p>
<p>&#8220;I saw a Small Blue Kingfisher once. It dived into the Yamuna&#8230;..it then turned Pied&#8221;</p>
<p>List of birds seen</p>
<p>1) Grey Francolin &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Francolinus pondicerianus</span><br />
2) Lesser Whistling Duck &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Dendrocygna javanica</span><br />
3) Spotbilled Duck &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Anas poecilorhyncha</span> &#8211; Hundreds!<br />
4) Northern Shoveler &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">A. clypeata</span> &#8211; 2 females among the spotbilled ducks<br />
5) Green Bee-eater &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Merops orientalis</span><br />
6) Juv. Cuckoo &#8211; Possibly Greybellied?<br />
7) Greater Coucal &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Centropus sinensis</span><br />
8) Roseringed Parakeet &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Psittacula kramerii</span><br />
9) Spotted Owlet &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Athene brama</span><br />
10) Laughing Dove &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Streptopelia senegalensis</span><br />
11) Eurasian Collored Dove &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Streptopelia decaocto</span><br />
12) Yellowfooted Green Pigeon &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Treron phoenicoptera </span>3 different flocks of<br />
approx 12-15 pigeons<br />
13) Whitebreasted Waterhen &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Amaurornis phoenicurus</span> &#8211; heard only<br />
14) Purple Moorhen &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Porphyrio porphyrio</span><br />
15) Ruff &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Philomachus pugnax</span> &#8211; 4 in flight<br />
16) River Tern &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Sterna aurantia</span><br />
17) Whiskered Tern &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Chlidonias hybridus</span><br />
18) Pariah Kite &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Milvus migrans</span><br />
19) Marsh Harrier &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Circus a. aeruginosus</span><br />
20) Greater Spotted Eagle &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Aquila clanga</span><br />
21) Little Cormorant &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Phalacrocorax niger</span><br />
22) Little Egret &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Egretta garzetta</span><br />
23) Cattle Egret &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Bubulcus ibis</span><br />
24) Grey Heron &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Ardea cinerea</span><br />
25) Purple Heron &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Ardea purpurea</span><br />
26) Night Heron &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Nycticorax nycticorax</span><br />
27) Painted Stork &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Mycteria leucocephala</span><br />
28) Rufousbacked Shrike &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Lanius schach</span><br />
29) Rufous Treepie &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Dendrocitta vagabunda</span><br />
30) House Crow &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Corvus splendens</span><br />
31) Eurasian Golden Oriole &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Oriolus oriolus</span> &#8211; seen in flight<br />
32) Black Drongo &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Dicrurus macrocercus</span><br />
33) Whirring call of Common Iora?? <span style="font-style: italic;">Aegithina tiphia</span> &#8211; Not confirmed<br />
34) Redvented Bulbul &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Pycnonotus cafer</span> &#8211; outnumbered its whiskered cousin<br />
35) Redwhiskered Bulbul &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">P. jocosus</span><br />
36) Ashy Prinia &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Prinia socialis</span><br />
37) Lesser Whitethroat &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Sylvia curruca</span><br />
38) Tailorbird &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Orthotomus sutorius</span><br />
39) Common Babbler &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Turdoides caudatus</span><br />
40) Purple Sunbird &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Nectarinia asiatica</span><br />
41) Red Munia &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Amandava amandava</span><br />
42) Silverbill &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">Lonchura malabarica</span><br />
43) Scalybreasted Munia &#8211; <span style="font-style: italic;">L. punctulata</span></p>
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		<title>Bird flu &#8211; Birds edition</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Prashanth Nuggehalli Srinivas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s an interesting puzzle, this bird flu. On one side, while birdwatchers are all disturbed about even the suggestion of wild bird culling as a control measure to prevent spread of bird flu by migratory birds, on the other hand, for the public health professionals, it is just among various available &#8216;vector-control&#8217; measure&#8230;..kinda like control [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an interesting puzzle, this bird flu. On one side, while birdwatchers are all disturbed about even the suggestion of wild bird culling as a control measure to prevent spread of bird flu by migratory birds, on the other hand, for the public health professionals, it is just among various available &#8216;vector-control&#8217; measure&#8230;..kinda like control mosquitoes to prevent malaria. Who would listen if for whatever reason, &#8216;mosquito-rights&#8217; activists want to prevent any such measure!!</p>
<p>Anyways, neither are there any mosquito-rights activists, nor are things as simple as taking a leaf from malaria vector control and applying it in bird flu. Understandably, things are much more complex than that. In two posts to two different groups, I have shared my opinions with both interest groups &#8211; birdwatchers and public health professionals&#8230;&#8230;.here is the birds edition, and soon to come the public health edition.</p>
<p>Just a few comments of mine especially in view of several discussions that I have been witness to in course of my study here. I just share below some of my thoughts for the general reader and may be writing on topics way out of the purview of our discussion group in hope that many birdwatchers would be interested in topics related to bird flu &#8211; an interesting situation that calls for a lot of inter-disciplinary work and understanding of concepts in biology, epidemiology, public health and veterinary science.</p>
<p>Sudheendra&#8217;s mail and Krishna&#8217;s and Deepa&#8217;s subsequent replies about Avian flu bring up many issues on avian flu that are hardly being considered. Sudheendra rightly points out the serious economic consequences of mass culling being undertaken in response to &#8216;declared&#8217; cases of the flu in Orissa and Bengal. Many of the people involved here are small poultry owners for whom livelihood is a much more proximate concern than an unheard &#8216;flu&#8217;.</p>
<p>Flu is definitely not something to be taken lightly. As Krishna points out, if the virus does &#8216;cross-over&#8217; to humans, the chances are only among the animal handlers, and that is exactly where the public health authorities must focus. It is also to be noted that until recently bird-human infection was not yet reported and it was only spreading among birds. But, the worldwide panic is because IF there is such a mutation that enables the flu to spread among people, it could take up the pandemic proportions that the world has seen before.</p>
<p>The thing about flu is that it is clinically&#8230;.well&#8230;so insignificant! Fever, feeling of weakness, body pain, red eyes are symptoms that dont get reported. MOre so in the health system landscape that India has with a zillion private clinics, quacks, traditional healers and disgruntled and frustrated public health system. The reports we are getting now are the ones we could detect.</p>
<p>Flu viruses have the uncanny ability of sweeping across the world bringing about widespread deaths and then, suddenly disappearing. This has happened many times before. The classical example quoted is that of the Swine Flu epidemic in the US which is supposed to have killed over 20 million people over 4 months just in the US! Of course, the pandemic was worldwide, but you<br />can get numbers only for the US, UK and some other countries which did have such systems. Over 200,000 people are supposed to have died in this pandemic in UK. It took more lives than in the First world war. And then, suddenly Swine Flu vanished into thin air. Poof! I say this to emphasize the point that flu is a very real danger. The reason why it flares up so suddenly is<br />attributed to mutations.</p>
<p>Influenza is caused by a virus which are comparable to &#8220;a bad xerox machine inside a protein cover&#8221;, the xerox machine in this case referring to its genetic material. I call it bad because it lacks a particular &#8216;proof-reading&#8217; mechanism that other living things have and hence there are<br />no &#8216;errors&#8217; when for example our own skin cells multiply in a healing wound. If our cells did not have a good way of keeping our genetic material intact during division, then we would all be doomed! But, for the virus this is quite an advantage, and hence through mechanisms called drifts and shifts, the virus keeps changing its protein clothing, which is what enables our immune system to identify them. So, how does the human immune system grapple with a virus that keeps changing its appearance&#8230;&#8230;It cant!&#8230;which is why, HIV and many other such viruses pose a great threat for vaccines. We would have to keep making vaccines for every new dominant appearance (strain) of the virus. IN simple language what I spoke about here is recognized as Genetic drifts and Genetic shifts. Drifts are minor changes occuring in the protein coat of the virus that leads to failure of vaccines and sometimes, major catastrophes, such as the Spanish Influenza Pandemic in the spring of 1918 which is supposed to have killed anywhwere between 40-100 million people! Get ready for this one &#8211; The Spanish Flu strain was supposed to have been an avian virus that underwent a shift!</p>
<p>Coming back to avian flu, the present strain finds it very difficult to get transmitted from human to human. Still, over 300 worldwide deaths that have been reported today are mostly bird-human transmissions with a few rare &#8216;within family&#8217; transmissions reported mostly again, within the family of the animal/poultry handlers. The virus strain causing the flu is called H5N1<br />which is the standard name for naming influenza viruses. H stands for one of the surface proteins on the virus that enables entry into cells, and N stands for an enzyme that enables the new virus particles to break out of the dying cell. Now, 4 sub-types of the avian flu virus are recognized. All<br />of them are deadly to birds, and can cause disease and death among humans. It is important to remember here that the virus presently is an AVIAN FLU virus and is being incidentally passed on to humans because of the way in which we have organized our poultry system! Wild birds, especially waterfowl are natural carriers of the virus, although, they are not as susceptible to<br />the disease as are the domestic birds. For eg. Russian vets are supposed to have drawn over 4000 samples of blood in Siberia with around 50 showing antibodies, which indicates active infection or past infection.</p>
<p>It is quite evident that migrant birds can carry these strains. But, it is important to note the following:</p>
<p>1) Birds carry several kinds of flu viruses and they have been doing so for zillions of years.</p>
<p>2) Wild birds themselves pose NO THREAT to any person directly. The only way is for them to pass on their infection to poultry birds, where the flu could spread like wildfire.</p>
<p>What we need to focus on is the situation within our poultry industry, handling of dead birds and a surveillance system that reports bird deaths in poultry houses. Moreover, awareness on this for animal handlers is extremely important. I find it quite ridiculous that may international bodies are calling for culling of wild birds. Such measures are not only scientifically untenable, they are also quite a schoolboy solution, I must say&#8230;.a bit like trying to kill all mosquitoes to eradicate malaria!</p>
<p>What we must concentrate on is surveillance systems, awareness on animal handling and vaccine research. Prototypes of the vaccines are being reported. If the virus does acquire mutations that enable human-human transmission, it could definitely be catastrophic, else, it could just go away into the thin air like a million other strains of flu that we in the third world could never ever find document, let alone naming them after their surface proteins. India must&#8217;ve seen so many other previous outbreaks that were never documented.</p>
<p>Just a final word, Avian Flu is a disease that presents a lot of research opportunities. There could be many PhDs created. It creates good business opportunities, many patents, awards, paper presentations, conferences and well, sales of the vaccine will rake in millions&#8230;&#8230;.it&#8217;s not the same<br />situation for diseases like Malaria, Kala-azar, Tuberculosis etc. which continue to kill millions of people across millennia&#8230;.these are the neglected diseases that no one ever bothers about. There are no new vaccines being tried, and no new drug being developed for these diseases&#8230;.there is<br />simply no &#8216;market&#8217;!!! An irony that avian flu gets so much attention.</p>
<p>Wonder how many of you got this far into my long rant at the end of a busy week here in cold, birdless Antwerp&#8230;.most of the birds around my house are around where most of you are sitting. Who knows, maybe some of them carried the flu!!! I started the mail saying &#8220;&#8230;just a few comments&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Some references for those who are interested:</p>
<p>Johnson, NP; Mueller, J (2002 Spring). &#8220;Updating the accounts: global<br />mortality of the 1918-1920 &#8220;Spanish&#8221; influenza pandemic.</p>
<p>J. D. Earn, J. Dushoff, S. A. Levin (2002). &#8220;Ecology and Evolution of the<br />Flu&#8221;. *Trends in Ecology and Evolution* 17: 334-340.</p>
<p>Bill Bryson (2003) A Short History of Nearly Everything. pp. 386-388</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Prashanth Nuggehalli Srinivas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My friend Sunil, once remarked that nostalgia is a sign of old age, and if that is what I am suffering from, may it be so&#8230;&#8230;As I sit in my ill-lit room in Antwerp, eating microwave heated, yesterday cooked, lemon rice, I think about those wonderful days in the hills&#8230;..and my heard dances with BR [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  >My friend Sunil, once remarked that nostalgia is a sign of old age, and if that is what I am suffering from, may it be so&#8230;&#8230;As I sit in my ill-lit room in Antwerp, eating microwave heated, yesterday cooked, lemon rice, I think about those wonderful days in the hills&#8230;..and my heard dances with BR Hills (No Daffodils there&#8230; :)</p>
<p></span><span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" >As you enter the sanctuary, you start with scrub jungle with regular sightings of Baybacked Shrikes and Peafowl. As you then pass the first waterhole on your right, if you dont see &#8216;party dudes&#8217; from Mysore listening to Backstreet Boys, you will see sometimes Dholes. If the summer gets real bad, Elephants too, for this is quite a good lake.</span><span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" ></p>
<p>As you ascend, you see the towns of Yelandur and nearby villages onyour right from the watchpost, as the road curves to the left. Now theforest slowly turns greener, and trees replace the shrubs. The Laughing Dove turns into the Spotted one. This is where you will see that the trees are all of the same height and one-storeyed almost like a plantation. But, this only indicates the result of &#8216;protection&#8217;, for this is the area of extension of the sanctuary and most of the trees here came up together once the hills got legal protection.</span><span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" ><br /></span>
<p  style="text-align: left; font-family: arial;font-family:arial;"><span style="font-size:100%;">You continue walking up, and you will definitely see Gaurs if it is fairly late in the day. Most of the days, as I returned from my clinics at the foothills, I could see Garus, and on &#8216;good&#8217; days, bears. Monitors are also seen sometimes. As you go up, you reach the Purani area, which is where the &#8216;Purani tiger&#8217; frequently hangs around. Curiously, he is sighted more frequently by busloads of uninterested pilgrims, rather than our kinds! This guy can get quite nasty a little later in the year, post-december, when he starts lifting a cattle or two. In fact, one late evening, I saw this guy resting on a rock on a valley across, quite not bothering about us watching him!</span></p>
<p  style="text-align: left; font-family: arial;font-family:arial;"><span style="font-size:100%;">You ascend up and you can really feel the air cooling down&#8230;..heres&#8217; where the Drongos become smaller and shinier&#8230;we start seeing the Bronzed Drongo. The first of the Wagtails you start seeing, especially the Grey Wagtail, in the winters, all along the road! In fact, it is quite a pattern&#8230;once the Greys arrive, the Whites seem to go downstairs! And so, do the White-bellied Drongos which go further down..</span></p>
<p  style="text-align: left; font-family: arial;font-family:arial;"><span style="font-size:100%;">After this of course, is the town of BR Hills with its own charm and beauty! If you continue down the road, as I see you have, the Drongos become racquet-tailed, the minivets turn scarlet and the Pigeons become green, emerald and imperial! I can go on and on..but, gotta stop somewhere, right..so here goes&#8230;STOP&#8230;&#8230;hmm&#8230;..getting old is fun!<br /></span></p>
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		<title>Diclofenac and Vulture deaths &#8211; From naivity to reality</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Diclofenac is one of the most commonly used Non-steroidal anti-inflammatories. Just to give you an idea of the magnitude, I take the human example. Although, I really dont know to what extend &#8216;human diclo cycle&#8217; touches birds, as an example, it would be good. There are about 1600 odd government health centres in Karnataka &#8211; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diclofenac is one of the most commonly used Non-steroidal anti-inflammatories. Just to give you an idea of the magnitude, I take the human example. Although, I really dont know to what extend &#8216;human diclo cycle&#8217; touches birds, as an example, it would be good. There are about 1600 odd government health centres in Karnataka &#8211; just one state. A govt. PHC on an average dispenses 30 tablets of diclo daily. That amounts to about 50000 tablets daily in Karnataka on ONE DAY!</p>
<p>The wonder of this drug is that it is much sought after for the various kinds of pains, most often, arthritic pain. Moreover, recent precription practices of doctors show a remarkable bias towards diclo as compared to traditional painkillers. But, most importantly, it is quite inexpensive when compared to many others.</p>
<p>Changing prescription practices among doctors is a sisyphean task! Trust me, public health professionals have been trying for ages to bring in rational and evidence-based drug use, but to no avail. Unless, safer, and more importantly, more economical alternatives to vets is proposed and ACTIVELY pushed the ground situation is not likely to change at all. And this pushing has to happen, NOT THROUGH conservation groups but through medical reps! Catch any medical<br />professional listening to conservation groups!</p>
<p>Of course, all this is assuming that Diclo truely is the reason for the &#8216;vulture decline&#8217;. I really dont know if it is safe to assume that banning diclo would be of any help in Africa at all! Is there evidence for this?</p>
<p>If the future of vulture in India rests in fact on the effectiveness of the ban on diclofenac, then God save the Vulture! If at all, the vultures do manage to fight back a few years after the ban, we can rest assured that diclofenac never was the reason anyways! Cos, rarely have we ever achieved any ban in reality. ( Go to the nearest pharmacy to purchase any of the following &#8216;banned drugs&#8217; &#8211; Analgin, Cisapride, Droperidol, Furazolidone, Piperazine etc&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>The artist clarifies!</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the winter of 2004, from my abode in BR Hills, where I was dwelling then, I had all the time in the world to philosophize! I was writing about the artist-scientist &#8216;polarities&#8217; and one of my senior colleagues in BR Hills, responded to my turmoil by throwing some light. Stephen Jay Gould is a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the winter of 2004, from my abode in BR Hills, where I was dwelling then, I had all the time in the world to philosophize! I was writing about the artist-scientist &#8216;polarities&#8217; and one of my senior colleagues in BR Hills, responded to my turmoil by throwing some light. Stephen Jay Gould is a wonderful companion through such confusions on lonely nights&#8230;&#8230;.I am myself quite surprised on what I have just said, but if you ever go to a place like Belgium, after living for a few years in a forest in the Western Ghats, you will know what I am saying!
<p> There is some sort of light at the end of the tunnel. I have pasted below the reply of the &#8216;artist&#8217; I referred to in my earlier mail. The artist here is the doctor I work with, and he has been &#8217;seeing&#8217; birds for a <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">coupla</span>&#8216; decades now. I presume his mail will more appropriately confuse <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1">Sudhee</span>! As Guru adds, the mind-body problem is what I had in my mind (!) when I penned my reply. The seat of the mind has been quite a mystery for years. The realm of the answer has been classically left to philosophers and artists. However, it is those scientists who have stood at the shores of &#8217;science&#8217; and looked beyond the oceans of art, that have seen the answer to everything.<br />I was just pondering on how science is <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2">relevant</span> to the &#8216;artist birdwatcher&#8217;? Is it just enough then if we enjoy the whistle of a thrush and the cackle of a <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3">bulbul</span> while not wondering on the hows, whys and whithers?</p>
<p>Consider an artist. A 20 year old man with a lot of ambition, and skilled as well (defining &#8217;skill&#8217; is altogether another discussion!). He wants to take up landscape painting. Having been in Bangalore all his life, he does not get too much of the natural landscapes he likes. He initially wants some &#8216;mountain with sunset&#8217; kind of subject to paint. A friend suggests BR hills and he goes there. He spends a day there and goes back to Bangalore with a painting. Which painting would be a true work of art (as they say!)&#8230;</p>
<p> 1) Mountains with trees, and sun setting: Mountains are portrayed with a diffuse growth of trees and a huge expanse of forest is shown. While the painting itself is beautiful showing a vast expanse of forest, a magnifying glass would only show &#8216;trees with green leaves&#8217;!</p>
<p>2) The same mountains and trees and the expanse but, with an attention to detail&#8230;the <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4">Lianas</span> hanging, the <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5">racquet</span>-tailed <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6">drongos</span> flying, the spot of the road (a <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7">nightjar</span> for a trained eye!), the shadow of the cloud over the canopy, string of trees on the mountains with a plusher green(where the streams flow!), trees with bare bark near the <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8">water body</span> (debarked by elephants!), a huge group of swifts overhead (strong monsoon winds are blowing!). This artist may not at all know what I have indicated in brackets, but his &#8216;work of art&#8217; incorporates it. It is here that science meets art!</p>
<p>The artist here is like the tern we see or the cow that the doctor saw (refer the article below!) Where the cow or the tern never involve themselves in any &#8216;<span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9">bheja</span> fry&#8217; like us, the true scientist-artist would. (Like it or not, we have a <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10">neo</span>-cortex); And it is here that we see the meaning of birdwatching. Such should be our observations. In trying to see the angered tern or a &#8217;single <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11">racqueted</span>&#8216; <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12">drongo</span>, all of us have to look for a satisfying explanation. It is only that for some, this explanation lies in art and for others in science! And of course, the tern or the cow never really bothered, because they were the problem itself! (It is not the problem, but the solution that bothers us)</p>
<p>NB: I looked to S J Gould for some clarity. (Art Meets Science in The Heart of the Andes: Church Paints, Humboldt Dies, Darwin writes, and Nature Blinks in the Fateful Year of 1859 Pp 90-109 from &#8220;I Have Landed &#8211; The End of a Beginning in Natural History&#8221;, Stephan Jay Gould, 2002)</p>
<p style="font-style: italic;">Dr. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13">Sridhar&#8217;s</span> reply:</p>
<p style="font-style: italic;">Dear <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14">Prashanth</span>,</p>
<p>//snip&#8230;Now let me add to the confusion. The word emotion is derived from its <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15">Latin</span> ancestor &#8216;<span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_16">emovere</span>&#8216; which means &#8216;to be disturbed&#8217;. So literally speaking, the bird was disturbed. To be disturbed is one of the essential qualities of &#8220;life&#8221;.  In addition, emotion is the body&#8217;s response to life situations, preparing it to be &#8220;responsible&#8221;! Again, Responsibility literally means Ability to Respond adequately and appropriately from moment to moment. Coming back to emotions, it is a  much earlier manifestation in evolutionary scheme, as the chemicals are released from the primitive <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_17">reptalian</span> brain and not from the much junior <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_18">neo</span> cortex. What the birds probably don&#8217;t do is to name the various emotions as we do . Our <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_19">neo</span> cortex constantly tries to name, find meaning where there they are probably not needed.We seem to complicate things in trying to find meaning.( philosophical ? uh?) So  &#8220;life is constant Disturbance&#8221; and  the beauty lies in constant Responsibility to the <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_20">never ending</span> Disturbance !!</p>
<p>I would like to tell you about a certain event that happened a few years ago, which has left a deep impression in my mind. When I was in the clinic, a herd of cows came into the campus. Soon they were being driven away. One of them while trying to get out, got entangled in the barbed wire fence and came down with a thud. I wanted to help it extricate its leg . When I went<br />near it , it started struggling more vigorously and the leg started bleeding. Hence I withdrew. The cow lay there helplessly, frothing from the mouth and the eyes were upturned and pitiable. Soon, another cow on the other side of the fence came near the &#8216;fallen&#8217; cow, sniffed it and started<br />licking. Within a few seconds, the cow came alive and got up smoothly extricating its trapped leg and went away. Probably , I noticed a wide cascade of emotional expressions in the cows, raging from fear, helplessness and love and <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_21">thankfulness</span>. The animals did not take the trouble to name the emotions, <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_22">nor</span> did they care to thank!  Who knows, after a while they might have locked horns over an inviting bull!</p>
<p>I can only marvel at nature and I think I <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_23">will</span> be a terrible failure to explain everything . I would rather be an artist!</p>
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		<title>River Terns, Emotions and Confusing answers!</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is in response to some very &#8216;hazy&#8217; topics in the &#8216;grey zone&#8217; between science and philosophy! The following post by my friend Sudheendra about Black-bellied Terns triggered this response, which led to a wonderful discussion on the same.
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sudhee asked</span> &#8220;&#8230;<span style="font-style: italic;">During my regular birding sessions&#8230;&#8230;i encountered </span><span style="font-style: italic;">many water birds&#8230;.encountered 3 River terns and One blackbellied </span><span style="font-style: italic;">tern&#8230;the river terns &#8220;tried to attack&#8221; me by making harsh screeching </span><span style="font-style: italic;">calls in flight, coming very close and taking sudden upflight,  </span><span style="font-style: italic;">everytime i tried to go near the water body&#8230;.the blackbellied tern </span><span style="font-style: italic;">was attacking the river tern without reasons..like the river tern was </span><span style="font-style: italic;">taking rest on the bank..this blackbellied tern tried to attack it </span><span style="font-style: italic;">from above..it did that several times! later when the river tern also </span><span style="font-style: italic;">got angry they had a chase where blackbellied tern with enormous speed </span><span style="font-style: italic;">was able to attack the river tern more fearlessly&#8230;..the river tern&#8217;s </span><span style="font-style: italic;">attitude of territory(?)awareness..or breeding resposiblities have </span><span style="font-style: italic;">not been given in salim ali&#8230;i even observed once a red wattled </span><span style="font-style: italic;">lapwing trying to attack a DOG when it was approaching (? ) its </span><span style="font-style: italic;">nest..the blackbellied terns&#8217; attitude ignited a question in me &#8230;do </span><span style="font-style: italic;">birds have emotions..very basic emotions..like caring(love)..Fear..and </span><span style="font-style: italic;">Anger or those are only reflexes? can anybody enlight me more&#8230;NS</span>?&#8221;</p>
<p>Your description is more indicative of a nesting colony of River Terns rather than &#8216;plain territoriality&#8217;. However, I wonder if the lake you talk about can accomodate breeding colonies of River Terns. Does it have open sand banks. Is it a perennial lake and was it big enough. The terns prefer sandy &#8216;river&#8217; banks for nesting and they may be found nesting in colonies with Pratincoles or with other species of terns. Both the River and the Blackbellied being resident terns occupying almost similar niches, conflict over resource(nesting site, feeding site etc) would be a common occurence. Now coming to your Question on emotions and birds&#8230;Hmm&#8230;I think it is a question most asked and never adequately answered. Not answered adequately, not because of lack of information to answer them, but because of lack of belief. Such is our hobby (profession??) that it comes somewhere in the grey zone between art and science. I would divide birdwatchers into those with predominant artistic traits and those with predominant scientific traits. Where one says &#8220;Blessed are we to be able to appreciate natures beauty&#8221;, the other would attribute it to his trained eye! Where one experiences wonder and awe at the Peacock&#8217;s tail or the Minivet&#8217;s scarlet, the other sees Sexual Selection! Where one sees a remarkable plan and purpose in and eagle&#8217;s hunt, the other sees survival! Where one sees &#8216;love&#8217; when two bulbuls cuddle, the other sees &#8216;breeding record&#8217;! Where one sees anger, the other sees &#8216;territorialiity&#8217; And like you saw passion and aggresssion in the tern&#8217;s action, somebody else will see evidence of a nest and &#8220;nothing else&#8221;! And so, is the scientist better, because he knows so much more about the whys, hows and what nots? Well, that would be like comparing Alexander and Buddha! (There are no common standards for this comparison)<br />Yesterday evening during a walk, I was asked by somebody who has been watching(seeing!) birds for 11 years, whether, I could just look at them and not name them. It was then that I realised that I had compromised a lot on the artist front in arming myself scientifically. I realised that my mind said &#8220;Scarlet Minivet&#8221; when I saw one of the most wonderful birds flitting around and whistling. It will probably take some time to reawaken the part of me which does not conclude anything on seeing. So here is a lot of mumbo-jumbo instead of the answer to your question. Trust me, I have been there and have not found any answers. I am sure the above will help you in your journey to find the answer. Science is one route. It will give you all the explanations that perfectly fit your observations. But does that satisfy you. If you are now told that the terns are mere survival machines which are programmed to react the way they did under particular circumstances, would you be happy to take that answer, just because it is scientific?</p>
<p>Art is another. Just read a poem (I am sure somebody has &#8216;poetried&#8217; on terns) and you will see that the artist is able to attribute numerous purposes and emotions to the tern&#8217;s actions. Read Jonathan Livingston Seagull and you will see how there can be a whole world of gulls with their<br />own beliefs and traditions. But, how can you prove it, you mind will ask! So, the question rings back. Did the tern have emotion? All we can do is only conjecture or write poetry. The truth is with the tern, and it does not want to tell you!</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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I have just returned to Itanagar from Jenging, Upper Siang dt. I camped here for 2 days and visited one of the sub-centres of the PHC at Jenging. Most of the journey by vehicle and on foot to the sub-centre were spent birding.
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<p>I have just returned to Itanagar from Jenging, Upper Siang dt. I camped here for 2 days and visited one of the sub-centres of the PHC at Jenging. Most of the journey by vehicle and on foot to the sub-centre were spent birding.</p>
<p>Heavy rains have already begun in Arunachal and the skies were overcast even as I drove through N Lakhimpur and Dhemaji dts of Assam. Meanwhile, the higher peaks have seen some good snowfall, and I am told that Tawang has recieved fair amounts of snow. The drive from Itanagar to Jenging was great. After leaving Arunachal at Bandardeo checkgate and a 100 km drive through Assam, I re-entered Arunachal at the Likhabali checkgate. The road passes through the district of West Siang and winds around the hills northwards to the district of Upper<br />Siang. The district HQ of West Siang is at Along. After the town of Boleng, which is one of the first towns of Upper Siang, the road for some distance passes alongside the Siang river, the largest of the 3 rivers that make up the Brahmaputra. For a long distance, the road zig-zags on the hills along the river offering some breathtaking views of the &#8216;turquoise&#8217; waters of the river. At many places, there are hanging bridges across the river. The road then divides, one leading<br />to Jenging and the other leading to the district HQ of Yingkyong. Incidentally, Yingkyong was fully submerged by the Siang in 2000 when a mining related mishap on the banks of Siang upstream in China caused &#8216;welling up&#8217; of water, which later burst to deluge some large towns downstream. The whole town was submerged then.</p>
<p>The drive thereafter offers wonderful views of the Mouling National Park. The hills here lack the classic &#8216;jhum&#8217; facies of the other hills I have been seeing till now. Bird calls were heard more frequently, and number of bird sightings (not on heads, but in the air!) were more. Also, this being an area with a majority of Adi tribal population, the &#8216;hornbills on the heads&#8217; was not a feature. Unfortunately, I did not see any in the air either!</p>
<p>The road has been taken up by the Border Roads Organisation (BRO) and is in all-weather condition. Moreover, Jenging being the constituency of the Chief Minister himself seems to be well-served. The town also enjoys 24 hr power from the hydel project nearby.</p>
<p>Weather conditions were more or less cloudy all through and bird sightings were a precious few. One of the subcentres, I visited is within the Mouling NP (28° 33&#8242; N, 94° 46&#8242; E). It was declared so in 1986 and covers nearly 500 sq. km. Most of the habitat was wet evergreen and semi-evergreen hill forests with many patches of secondary growth. Most of the hills were covered cloud covered, and fast flowing hill streams draining into the Siang were a common feature.</p>
<p>Missing conspicuosly from the list are waterbirds, raptors and gamebirds! Any reason I can give would be merely speculative but&#8230;&#8230;hunting, cloudy weather, number of field hours, and closed<br />habitat???</p>
<p>But, what I did see are as follows:</p>
<p>1) Mallard Anas platyrhynchos &#8211; plenty in waterbodies in Assam<br />2) Oriental Turtle Dove Streptopelia orientalis &#8211; after Boleng<br />3) Himalayan Swiftlet Collocalia brevirostris &#8211; common<br />4) Ashy Swallow-shrike Artamus fuscus<br />5) Lesser Racquet-tailed Drongo Dicrurus remifer &#8211; Jenging<br />6) Bronzed Drongo D. aeneus &#8211; I saw the largest number of these in<br />flight, numbering approx 100 crossing the Siang noisily<br />7) Greater Racquet-tailed Drongo D. paradiseus<br />8) Large Woodshirke Tephrodornis gularis &#8211; before Along<br />9) Rufous-backed Shrike (Black headed race) &#8211; Lanius schach tricolor -<br />Common<br />10) Asian Pied Starling Sturnus contra  and Jungle Myna Acridotheres<br />fuscus- Common in Assam plains<br />11) Scarlet Minivet Pericrocotus flammeus<br />12) Black Bulbul Hypsipetes leucocephalus in large flocks &#8211; Jenging<br />13) Black-eared Shrike Babbler Pteruthius melanotis- 65th mile on<br />Along-Jenging road. 3 individuals seen at eye level overlooking the valley<br />14) Long-tailed Sibia Heterophasia picaoides<br />15) Striated Yuhina Yuhina castaniceps<br />16) White-naped Yuhina Y. bakeri<br />17) Whiskered Yuhina Y. flavicollis &#8211; All Yuhinas seen in large flocks<br />quite common in the Jenging and Ramsingh area<br />18) Yellow-bellied Fantail Rhipidura hypoxantha<br />19) Black-backed Forktail Enicurus immaculatus<br />20) Spotted Forktail E. maculatus<br />21) Little Forktail scouleri &#8211;  Was thrilled to see this bird.<br />Initially, I mistook it for a Magpie-Robin, but the stance and the<br />white tuft over the forehead forced a re-think. The bird flew into a<br />higher perch, when I disturbed it from the bottom of a small stream.<br />Jenging<br />22) White-capped Water Redstart Chaimarrornis leucocephalus Common<br />23) Blue-capped Rock Thrush Monticola cinclorhynchus<br />24) Chestnut-bellied Rock Thrush M. rufiventris Jenging<br />25) Blue Whistling Thrush Myophonus caeruleus<br />26) Chestnut-bellied Nuthatch Sitta castanea. I have been looking out<br />for the Beautiful Nuthatch Sitta formosa. No luck till now.<br />27) Olive-backed Pipit Anthus hodgsonii yunnanensis Jenging<br />28) Large Pied Wagtail Motacilla maderaspatensis<br />29) Grey Wagtail M. cinerea<br />30) White Wagtail M. alba leucopsis &amp; one of the grey-backed races (?<br />personata)<br />31) Eurasian Tree Sparrow Passer montanus Very common</p>
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		<title>Ramblings from Arunachal</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 17:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Arunachal Pradesh has been really exciting till now. I have got internet access after a long time, and decided to write about it. It seems to be one of the more peaceful of the states here in thenorth-east. The transition from the plains of Assam to the hills of Arunachal is quite drastic if one [...]]]></description>
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<p>Arunachal</span> Pradesh has been really exciting till now. I have got internet access after a long time, and decided to write about it. It seems to be one of the more peaceful of the states here in the<br />north-east. The transition from the plains of Assam to the hills of <span id="st" name="st" class="st">Arunachal</span> is quite drastic if one travels on road. The demarcation between these two states is both physiographic and ethnic. While Assam suffers from very regular bandhs, strikes and &#8216;chakka jaams&#8217;, <span id="st" name="st" class="st">Arunachal</span> is mostly peaceful. However, most of travel between towns in <span id="st" name="st" class="st">Arunachal</span> happens through Assam and all strikes there have an effect on movement here. Most of the roads that have been constructed are of excellet quality, having been constructed by the Border Roads Organisation. Also, the districts on China border are being connected by good roads for strategic reasons.</p>
<p>People here strike one as very fiercely independent. Tribal identity is very strong, and people are proud of their tribe and community. The entry of outsiders is allowed only after obtaining at Inner line permit. This can be obtained at Guwahati and the document is to be produced while entering <span id="st" name="st" class="st">Arunachal</span>. It feels almost like crossing a border. I guess Nepal must be easier to get into. However, this one concept has probably preserved the identity and culture and has limited interventions from outside. At the same time however, there is no private player in any sector &#8211; telecom, insurance, banking &#8211; and this slows down everything here.</p>
<p><script><!-- D(["mb","is secondary growth of bamboo and banana. Of course, there are still<br />large stretches of \'pristine\' jungle at many places. But, seeing jhum<br />to such a large extent is definitely disturbing to an outsider.</p>
<p>Since reports from this part of the country are few, I thought I will<br />share whatever little I have been seeing. I have tried to make up for<br />the low number of bird sightings by sharing some info about the places!</p>
<p>I saw my first Upland Buzzard (Buteo hemidaisicus) Sangram in Kurung<br />Kumey district. This district is a new one and gets its name from two<br />large rivers, Kurung and Kumey. The district borders China, and one<br />can reach the nearest Chinese village by 3 days walk from the district<br />HQ of Koloriang. The PHC at Sangram which I visited is located on the<br />tip of a cliff overlooking the valley of the river Kurung. The Buzzard<br />was gliding above the hills on the other side of the river, and<br />\'hovered\' for a few seconds, much like a Kestrel.</p>
<p>Grey-cheeked Warblers (Siecircus poliogenys) were quite a few around<br />the PHC.</p>
<p>I have seen countless hornbills till now - on people\'s heads!! The<br />Nyishi tribal elders wear a hat which is decorated with the \'casque\'<br />of the hornbill. It even has a feather or two - either of hornbills or<br />the racquets of the racquet tailed drongo. Almost all the tribals<br />carry a \'dao\'. It is kept in a bamboo case, which is hung around the<br />trunk in a belt made of bear hide. Youth carrying air guns for hunting<br />were also frequently seen.</p>
<p>Forktails (Slaty backed and black backed) and Blue whistling thrushes<br />were common near hill streams.</p>
<p>On the whole, I am travelling a lot. I have visited 2 districts. I am<br />leaving for Jenging which is in Upper Siang district and within<br />Mouling WLS and will proceed to Roing in Lower Dibang Valley district.</p>
<p>Hope I will be able to write from Roing......</p>
<p>Regards,<br />Prashanth<br />Itanagar</p>
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<p>",0] );  //--></script>But, what disturbs me most is the emptiness of the forests here. Thick verdant forests clothe the hills&#8230;..on entering them, one is hit by their emptiness. Also, most of what is seen outside of protected areas is secondary growth of bamboo and banana. Of course, there are still large stretches of &#8216;pristine&#8217; jungle at many places. But, seeing jhum to such a large extent is definitely disturbing to an outsider.</p>
<p>Since reports from this part of the country are few, I thought I will share whatever little I have been seeing. I have tried to make up for the low number of bird sightings by sharing some info about the places!</p>
<p>I saw my first Upland Buzzard (Buteo hemidaisicus) Sangram in Kurung Kumey district. This district is a new one and gets its name from two large rivers, Kurung and Kumey. The district borders China, and one can reach the nearest Chinese village by 3 days walk from the district<br />HQ of Koloriang. The PHC at Sangram which I visited is located on the tip of a cliff overlooking the valley of the river Kurung. The Buzzard was gliding above the hills on the other side of the river, and &#8216;hovered&#8217; for a few seconds, much like a Kestrel.</p>
<p>Grey-cheeked Warblers (Siecircus poliogenys) were quite a few around the PHC.</p>
<p>I have seen countless hornbills till now &#8211; on people&#8217;s heads!! The Nyishi tribal elders wear a hat which is decorated with the &#8216;casque&#8217; of the hornbill. It even has a feather or two &#8211; either of hornbills or the racquets of the racquet tailed drongo. Almost all the tribals carry a &#8216;dao&#8217;. It is kept in a bamboo case, which is hung around the trunk in a belt made of bear hide. Youth carrying air guns for hunting were also frequently seen.</p>
<p>Forktails (Slaty backed and black backed) and Blue whistling thrushes were common near hill streams.</p>
<p>On the whole, I am travelling a lot. I have visited 2 districts. I am leaving for Jenging which is in Upper Siang district and within Mouling WLS and will proceed to Roing in Lower Dibang Valley district.</p>
<p>Hope I will be able to write from Roing&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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